You know that's right! My personal feeling is that the Toomey kit is one of the finest off the shelf pipes you can buy. I'm sure there are pipes that offer a lil more bottom end power but the Toomey isn't hurting for bottom end power. It has a strong mid & a decent topend. It's a very good bang for the buck & I can't imagine that anyone going from stock to Toomey would be disappointed, however, after riding with a Toomey & then trying a different pipe disappointment is likely! Uh huh, Tru dat! Toomey FTMFW!!