Converting to led lights!

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  1. 79 bronco

    79 bronco Moderator & Self Custom Psycho Staff Member

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    I got a pair of Dually led lights from Rigid Industries.

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    Looks like a good setup I:I

    because when you feel like shooting stuff, shoot your lights.
    Must have been a common fire problem?

    Where are you getting a rectifier?
     
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    very nice doug.
    and you've been getting some really cool decals lately, but i guess your daughter ran off with these too ? :)
     
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    79 bronco Moderator & Self Custom Psycho Staff Member

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    I was looking at radioshack, and ebay, and a friend of mine told me he can make me a rectifier. But why make one when you can buy one for $2.00 to $10.00.

    I dont know what kind or size to get yet.

    Any suggestions on what rectifier to get?

    http://www.radioshack.com/search/index.jsp?kw=rectifier&kwCatId=13384949&fbc=1&f=PAD/Product Type/Rectifiers&fbn=Type/Rectifiers&filterName=Type&filterValue=Rectifiers

    http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trk....TRC2.A0.H0&_nkw=rectifier&_sacat=0&_from=R40
     
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    She did not see them yet! lol
     
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    you know what i'm going to say........trail tech is where i'd be shopping :)
    they specialize in this stuff


    here's what the TT rectifier says..................

    150 watt full wave regulator/rectifier for DC electrical systems. Built in relay activates switched 12V DC output line only when engine is running, with adjustable shut-off delay. Wire connection for use with most machines. DC stator and battery/capacitor sold separately.
    *Trail Tech's Regulator/Rectifier will not work with most factory stators. Stator must have a floated ground, modifications to stator may be required.


    http://www.trailtech.net/7004-rr150

    here's the tech page w/ rectifier schematics and more, maybe you can find some info there ?
    http://gallery.trailtech.net/media/instructions/lights/regrec/010-ELV-116.pdf
     
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    Ricks Motorsports electric are good people to deal with. They are North of me in Hampstead, New Hampshire. I would give them a call directly. I am sure they can help you out. They are not anything like ricky stator, rm stator etc Just sounds close. Just a small town shop making good products.

    http://ricksmotorsportelectrics.com/
     
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    With how expensive those lights are, i wouldn't skimp on the rectifier regulator.... i went with trail tech, but whatever you get, go full wave. those lights are nice!
     
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    Thanks for the advice guys, Im very undecided on what to use for a rectifier regulator!

    Any good advice is appreciated, so keep it coming! :)
     
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    I like the trail tech regulator/rectifier. BUT do i need to use a battery with it? I DONT want a battery.
    I also like this one! But do i need a battery?>> http://4into1.com/universal-rectifier-voltage-regulator/


    This is a cheap one http://www.aliexpress.com/item/NEW-LF110-Voltage-Regulator-of-motorcycle-parts/470708014.html
     
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    Sick lights Bronco. Looking forward to see what you build to mount them.
     
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    As long as you use a full wave rectifier you can get away without a battery, and a lot of people do without any problems. Buttt, and this is just my opinion and some would argue with me, i believe that the dc without a battery or even a small capacitor will shorten the life of your lights. Without a battery/cap, yes you have dc power but it's a sign wave. That means the light is receiving pulses of energy. With a battery/cap it is a constant and stay flow of power. You know how the bulb always blows out when you turn it on? Try turning it on a few thousand times a minute haha. If your friend could make you a rectifier I'm sure he could add in a capacitor the size of a d battery. But you really don't NEED it. I'm just stubborn
     
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    I just got off the phone with trail Tech because I was having problems with my new rectifier regulator. They will only work if they are connected to a battery or a capacitorbecause they are a shunt style. which is bad news for me because that is apparently why my other one wasn't working
     
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    Just to clear up a few myths about the life of lights.

    Ii do believe that mains supply in US is 115v, 60Hz, in Aussie it is 240v 50Hz, the Hz means that it is alternating current, which is a sine wave.

    AC current switches direction 60/50 times a second which means that every time it switches it turns off and then back on.

    Rectified AC is not a sine wave, it is direct current with a base line of 0v raising to the voltage required.

    Rectification does leave a little of the AC waveform, which can be smoothed out by the use of a capacitor, inductor or a battery.

    When a light is turned on the filament is under great stress from having to immediately come from a cold state to a white hot state, that is why filaments fail.

    Filaments seldom fail from AC current or unfiltered DC current as the filament has no time to cool between cycles.

    Capacitors do no remove the AC ripple of rectification completely and for lighting situations unfiltered DC is perfectly fine to use.

    Eg: Blaster lighting is powered by AC current, when was the last time you replaced your headlamp?
     
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    assuming everyone doesnt know what were talking about....

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    the first picture is ac current. the second picture is ac current that has been rectified into dc current. the third picture is dc current with a buffer (battery, cap, etc...) my concerns arent with halogen lights. its with led lights or hid lights. whether you need a battery or not (and you need to verify with the manufacturer of your rectifier regulator that you dont because you do with the trail tech) i believe that a battery will extend the life of your lights. and at $200+ for some of these lights, theres no reason to not use a battery even if my theory is wrong. you dont need an 11 pound 310 cca battery like i have haha
     
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    Thanks for the info, if i go for the trailteach regulator/rectifier then i will get the small trailteach battery to go with it.
    Do you know the measurements of the trailteach regulator/rectifier?
    I was thinking about trying to fit the trailteach regulator/rectifier in the spot that the old stock regulator is in.

    I was hoping not to but it looks like the best way of convert to led lights is using a battery and modifying my lighting coil to a floated ground.
     

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